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on July 5, 2021
It’s technically a spaceplane, but since it’s the only space-worthy vehicle on the planet, Star can call it whatever she wants.
Fairies vs Tentacles
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WoooHooo! Space Road Trip!
Now let’s just hope they manage a diplomacy with Armagon better than they’re own. (gonna need more popcorn)
Am I the only one bothered by a general lack of common knowledge education for fairy’s? How do they not know what… orbit is. They are a flying race, they should know things like how the atmosphere works. Do the Star faeries keep knowledge secret so they can stay in power? That’s tyranny and horrible.
There is huge technology gap between fairy locations. Most have tech level of the middle ages, while others are of tech level to humans. Special few even have more advanced tech like we see here
As for fairy knowledge – the info not hidden or forbidden, just fairies don’t need it. A farmer fairy wont go to a library to learn space stuff or even think that there is such knowledge. Most fairies live simple lives and don’t bother looking outside that. there are those that do however. Author probably can give better answer than me but that is my take
Most humans wouldn’t go to library on their own either, but we have general education – schools and so. Fairies seems to generally not have anything like this … or, at least, they are not taught space physics there.
Fairies are born with generic knowlidge
As for knowlidge of space – why would fairy meed to learn it if she wont ever use it?
Basic knowledge. Very basic.
Well, for example … because realizing how big space is opens mind.
Language, reading writing, wjat are fairies what are stars what is fairy island. If you put in all possible info into fairy that might be too mich to bear so early in lofe or would keep making fairies of sake mind set
Also you seem very hsng up on the “why they dont know space tjing”. You do realize there are pleaces in real life that are not as developed so such knowlidge not present and honestly not needed
Yeah, using actual school is better than uploading all info directly into brain.
Sure there are places where they still don’t know what Isaac Newton found in 1687. However, they definitely NEED to. They are currently poor and depends on humanitarian aid and education is only way out.
You seem to think that “knowledge about space” is something very advanced, but really: 1687. Or, actually, Kepler 1609. We are not speaking about theory of relativity or quantum physics, this is basic science.
You do realize just because a scientist did make those studies so long ago does not mean every little farmer suddenly had the knowledge?
to finish this off – fairies are given basic knowledge so they could form their own personalities. If they want to pursue further studies they can. But they are not forced to as well. I keep trying to explain this but you seem to dismiss that every time
Ok that might have been a bit too harsh, sorry about that. All I meant to say not every fairy will know everything that modern man knows by osmosis due to them not having manditory schools and tech level not equally distributed
So im not talking about like knowledge about the physics of space or space travel or things like that i meant more.. you know… the existence of space as a concept. That is a very glaring gap in basic knowledge. Do they not navigate via stars in this world? Do they not know what stars are? I would hope so cause there is an entire type of fairy named after stars.
They dont navigate stars – they dont leave the single small island they are on
And you do know that a term as “the sky” exist right? As in people use that term not thinking about the endless vastness of space?
(I suspect that the “keep trying to dismiss that” is caused by nonlinear nature of our discussion although I’m not going to recheck times. Like, I wrote this before reading your next post.)
I do realize fairies don’t have mandatory general education. I just think it’s bad idea, like one of the mistakes Stars did. Although it’s possible that there is mandatory general education in dark fairies city for example …
Science is more connected than it seems. Lot of children would prefer to skip “boring” or “hard” classes, arguing they are not going to need it in their live, but some level of knowledge would be useful for them even if they don’t realize it. (Granted, teachers are often not best at selecting what is the important basic stuff.)
Yeah sorry for not giving good answer previously – personal stuff and not beinf able to word it out well
Yes manditory education might be good – I am not dusmissing that. However in the setting there is no such thing. As to why only author can give proper answer. My guess stars dont want fairies to be force into roles even more than they do
Fairies are born as adults, with access to telepathic knowledge transfer. They do not have access to most of the world due to the monsters/other dangers, and not even access to the entre island! They are really in a situation where mandatory public education would be more of a drain on available resources than a benefit. Or at least where the argument could be made convincingly… (I’m still not convinced, but I can see the point.)
I don’t think any other fairies than Stars – who are NOT sharing – can do telepathic knowledge transfer. And they live like this thousands of years. Even with their longevity, argument that public education should be postponed to later, when they have more resources, is very unconvincing.
Fairies are born with lots of knowlidge already. So they go through “public education” when they are being born so why do it more
You keep bringing this up and all I can say “they dont have public education”. Just because you and I had it doesn’t mean every single person in the world has it
Sokaras: I though I already explained it: Yes, I know that they don’t have public education, I just think it’s bad idea because their “general knowledge” is obviously insufficient.
Paradox just made a new argument and I said why I don’t find it convincing … which of course doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be used. There are lot of arguments I don’t find convincing used in elections.
The knowledge isn’t secret, but it’s not imposed either. In the modern society, humans need to keep up with each other to stay competitive and earn their keep, and that’s done through knowledge and advancement. In the fairy society, what makes a fairy valuable is her magic knowledge, so a nature fairy might know A LOT about plants and animals, but nothing about space. Fairies are free to educate themselves, but they are no obligatory school systems in place because as sokaras said they are born with the magic cave implementing basic knowledge like speech, motion and magic control. Also a fairy can live forever and doesn’t get weaker and dumber over time, on the contrary. So they might spend years fooling around, then decide to sit down and learn a proper trade for 40 years, then move to something else, etc.
How much “basic” is the basic knowledge implanted by magic cave? Seems it’s very basic, less than elementary school.
But yes: in case of humans, we are choosing what to study based on what interest us, so we need to get some general overview first. In case of fairies, their specialty is obvious from their element, so they can go directly to specialized school. Or not, because they have enough time.
Ok so i get the long lived thing but from what i have read there are some… glaring gaps in basic knowledge. Plus knowledge of more advance stuff could help with the development of a fairies magic. Imagine what a fire fairie could do if they say… for example… understood the laws of thermal dynamics? or what a water fairy might develop if they understood the science of water physics and such? they could develop hydro electric power, steam technology, better weapons to fend off the terrifying horrors of the forest. Yes I know star fairies have advance tech… so why isn’t knowledge of such tech shared with all fairy kind? I mean yes i know there are terrorist fairies (i think that’s what the chaos fairies seem to be?) but i bet if the star fairies were more open with their knowledge the chaos fairy platform of being oppressed by them would lose the legs to stand on no?
“Basic knowledge” is different for different people. Simple farmers from country side, people from jungle tribe and people from most advanced cities have different things what they would call basic knowlidge
What use a nature fairy has learning about space when better effort can be spent to learn how to heal a person? Or to grow crops to feed her village?
It is not shared because it is few in numbers and stars dint want theur tech turned agaisnt them
that last part is what i am implying with my original post. they hoard knowledge and intentionally keep information from other tribes and types of fairies. Hell the way they treated the dark fairies is bad enough, but the fact that there is the chaos fairy faction that views them as tyrants says alot abou the way they treat fairy society as a whole. How much do they hide, why do they get to decide what is and isn’t important for the other fairies to know? You say a nature fairy learning about space wouldn’t mean anything but wouldn’t that allow them better grasp of their powers as a whole considering how the atmosphere plays a role in nature? How the orbit of planets and moons effects the weather and such? (Also was it nature fairies that were the healers? I thought it was a different type). I also see you didn’t touch on my idea that understanding science might help other fairy types like fire and water.
First wanted to apologize – was getting bit frustrated at the time as I felt I kept saying same thing over and over to several people. Root of the problem being I am unable to give satisfying answer why not all fairies are super smart or how much morality is with star decisions. I just don’t know – we will need to wait and see. And sadly this frustration and some personal stuff on my end didn’t let me answer correctly some questions, for which I apologize.
Now to answer your questions correctly:
1. Yes stars hoard their tech only sharing with the most trusted fairies. They do this so a) fairies not use the tech against stars b) fairies not use tech to start killing each other. Again – can’t comment whether some stars do this maliciously or not. My personal guess? Solaris would want share a lot more of the knowledge, Comet would only want to share the weaponry to fight off monsters better, while Galaxy would gladly take away what tech fairies already have. The others fall somewhere in between sharing and not sharing
2. Stars do share some tech, most noticeable was when fairies started making computers they shared how to make microchips so fairies not start making vacuum tube computers. Note – this is from an old conversation with the author. Until this is mentioned in comic it’s canonicity can change.
3. I don’t know how much Star fairies hide but since they were first fairies and live longest – they probably have lot of shit hidden. How much they hide for the betterment of themselves or the fairies – I have no idea or can’t share due to spoiler reasons.
4. The main reason Stars keeping rule besides being set up like that by their creators and being most powerful fairies is because of their monopoly over the magic cave. Fairies are tied to it and no community that would leave Star society can sustain itself as they can’t have kids.
5. There are two healer types fairies – nature fairies have biokinesis and light fairies have entropy reversal (time rewind). Each heal in different ways. You can read up more in the Lore index I think.
6. Yes with more access to knowledge fairies could get way more out of their elements. The underlining problem with fairy society is that they are stagnant and lazy -few try to improve beyond what they have. My guess would be stars made it so fairy lives be comfortable so the need to challenge yourself is missing. Whether it is true I do not know.
7. Syl being surprised about space and orbit I believe was mainly way to point out how different knowledge and tech level is between different fairies. I didn’t think much of it – there are a lot of things I don’t know, so I can understand others not knowing stuff I know. Am unable to explain this better as no matter how much I tried i can’t word out a better answer. Sorry
8. Yes with enough knowledge fairies could do way more stuff with their abilities. Sadly currently I have hard time thinking of good examples for water and fire ones and don’t want to say anything that is non-canon .
Holy hell thank you so much for taking the time to go into such a detailed answer, was not expecting that much detail. This has pretty much assuaged my concerns (though not about the stars or at least some of them being kinda tyrannical). I have always believed that knowledge and bettering oneself is important to personal growth so if your theory about the stars setting up fairy society so that other fairies purposefully dont seek out self improvement is true, then that bothers me. Also holding the only means of reproduction hostage to guarantee compliance from clans is kinda sketchy if not outright evil.
All I know is that stars want fairies to be happy. how much this is out of kind ness or to make them complient i cant comment, however this resulted in society of fairies that are rather passive
So until we learn more as story progress it is hard to say for true. My guess that not every star is tyranical ruler but bad stuff came out from their good intentions. Sorry cant give better answer
The monopolly is sadly because construction of new cave currently is immpossible. If they could build more they would as fairy reproduction is very slow with only 1 cave
Stars are for fairies to improve themselves as the arch fairy program is for that. Making fairies compete for the possition to improve themselves as well as having representatives for the elements (Note: author did mention Galaxy would like the arch fairy project scraped)
They however are not pushing fairies to improve themselves only giving the options. (Note: author mentioned that Comet would like manditory training in the Warrior citadel for every fairy, but so far the others rebuked this idea). Also fairy population now big enough that just 8 arch fairies might be too little to represent or adress all problems with their elemental bretharen. So the system might need improving
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Assuaged concerns? Non-english speaker so first time hearing that term
Yeah, Stars might mean it well (at least some of them) but they are doing mistake and the results might actually already be here. It’s possible that with better education, some fairy would already find out solution for the magic cave problem …
Possible
Also, the more fairies using advanced tech, the more resources consumed. A huge issue that was most likely the reason the magic cave was made necessary by the Draigjibies in the first place.
Sure, more resources consumed, but also more potential to make more resources available.
Also, I’m pretty sure that Draigjibies did NOT made magic cave, a piece of extremely advanced technology which need periodical maintenance from someone understanding it, necessary to REDUCE how much advance tech fairies use. I think it was because they didn’t find other way how to make nihillium in growing fairies stable. Remember, THEY were purely biological, without nihillium, and reproduced normally.
If I recall cave was mox of their and nihallak tech
Of course it’s mix, nihallaks were only one knowing something about nihillium.
Also, for case the sentence I used was too long and hard to read, another take: Draigjibies made the magic cave, however the REASON why they made it wasn’t to deliberately limit fairies and how much resources they consumed. It was because they weren’t able to do it better.
And yes, their limited understanding of nihallak technology might be WHY they weren’t able to do it better.
Yes cave has flaws that draigjibies hoped fairies could fix. And they hope fairies would expand, get more resources and build more caves
Exactly. Unfortunately, Stars messed that up. Possibly due to underestimating education :-).
Usually, having spaceship underground is bad logistics, but if they really accelerate it by magnetic rails it may make sense …
yeah it’s not your classical rocket, also icbms are in undergrounds silos, but granted they’re not meant to go orbital.
I think those underground silos are not THAT deep underground, and it’s because having them protected from enemy attack is more important than effectivity.
Also, ICBMs are good example about orbit not being PLACE. They can easily reach attitude of 1,200 km, while plenty of orbital stuff happens at low orbits around 500km (ISS 400km, Huble 540km, Iridium 780km …) … but stuff on orbit flies FASTER.
Although if it goes TOO fast it reaches escape velocity and effectively falls away from the planet.
(Side trivia: the escape velocity for our sun is four times greater than the escape velocity from the Earth – even from the Earth’s surface.) (That was an accurate, but misleading, statement.)
That’s true, but I don’t think there is any risk of anyone reaching escape velocity by mistake. The difference is not that small and people who got on orbit generally already have the knowledge.
I just have to say, that was an awesome “simple explanation” of orbit! Kudos to Eldrik for it.