Hmm, now that I think about it, that make’s sense.
What makes the cave work exactly? And if you could replicate it, what would stop anyone from just making one? (I’m assuming this answer is in a lore page posted year’s ago)
In short, what you think of as magic cave is just one part of it, the assembly chamber. The “magic” cave is actually complicated piece of technology (or magitech) with programmable computer system and quite complicated software. However, regarding copying it, the actual problem are two other components, the Nihillium Cathode aka the place Nihillium waste is sent to, also known as (center of) dark forest (Monolith is merge of Nihillium Cathode and F-jiby) … and the Matter Anode, aka the thing which is absorbing and translocating raw materials from north of island and turned it into wasteland.
In even more short version, you can’t fit second cave on the island without turning it uninhabitable. Of course, there is plenty of space on continents …
It’s not entirely clear (not even to Stars) how much of the effects of Nihillium Catode is inevitable and how much is caused by Monolith, and it’s not clear (THIS however Stars likely know) how much of the waste Nihillium is generated by creating fairies itself and how much is filtered out from what Matter Anode absorbs.
However, considering the island is among the LEAST nihillium-polluted parts of planet, yes, we can be sure that any “magic” cave creating fairies is going to create monsters as sideefect.
Can I be informed (or refreshed) on how Nihillium can even be “waste”? I thought it was the “perfect” artificial particle, and even though there is some difference between Fairy nihillium and “wild” nihillium, and possibly Nihalak nihillium as well, it’s not clear[*STOPS here, reads lore, distracted for days*]
Okay, I’m back…with KNOWLEDGE! 🤓
Alright, so it’s the nihillium (“Ni0”)* PROGRAMMING that is the biggest difference. That’s why nihallak Ni0 is weak to light and dark (“entropic”) magic, yet not the differently programmed fairy Ni0, nor programming-wiped (and therefore inert) Ni0, which has no programming to affect (unless there is some as yet undiscovered way to destroy/convert that Ni0 with magic). The energy-drained (and therefore also inert) Ni0 not only re-activates it’s programming with High-Plane energy (“HPE”) (and also magic?), but if it has Nihallak programming, it also CAN still be affected by entropic magic — correct, Author dearest? Other bothersome questions I must pester you with:
2) Does either of those inert-types of Ni0 still “gravitate” toward HPE? 2.5) Does any kind of free Ni0 gravitate toward magic?
3) If monster Ni0 is just old Nihallak Ni0 without any new programming, why aren’t monsters affected by entropic magic? (according to lore .pdf, I was reading one from years ago… [Last updated: July of 2019!!! 😅])
I hope you’ll forgive me for all the questions I’ve been asking *just these past 2 weeks* all over the site. 😁
*I figured I’d try to write Nihillium as if it were an atomic element, “Ni-0” but not only can I not use sub/super script easily – if at all – on this device, I also thought “0” works better than “1” since nihillium operates a little differently from the physics that we all know and love. 😉 Perhaps my idea isn’t that great, please let me know of a better suggestion if anyone thinks 1up. 🙂 –JR
Looking up my old notes/discusssions) – the monster nihillium no longer has the entropic weakness. I don’t have in my notes why but guessing the programing changed/broken so much it works differnetly than nihallak nihillium. And at same time the monsters are mostly made up of non nihillium
I don’t know about the fairy nihillium but every other kind is attrackted to HP energy. That why monsters so mindlessly want attack fairies – the programable mater in the orders them to gather more (should be noted that most nihillium out there is from nihallaks)
Thanks, Sokaras! You’re an okay kind of person, regardless of what your little sister Katararas says.
You definitely answered #3. If you could stretch out a little more info like I stretched that Last Airbender reference, let me clarify the others for you:
The unnumbered #1 was just a desire for confirmation that the Nihallak/Kulthma Ni0 “programming” (and possibly resulting physical properties BECAUSE of programming) was the main reason for the entropic weakness, as opposed to something more inherent in the different Ni0 tyoes (fairy, nihallak, monster). All Ni0 in them is the same Ni0 OTHER than programming.
In other words, it’s not like fairies’ Ni0 is like iPhones and Nihallaks’ is Surface tablets, they’re all the exact same device, with different apps… possibly different operating systems, but still same devices. Just like a computer virus might hurt one OS but not another even on the same devices, entropic magic harms Nihallak Ni0 yet not fairy/monster Ni0 (even if it harms the fairy or monster’s body!). Is that accurate? If so, you can totally use that analogy.
Next, I know that creatures with Ni0 are ATTRACTED to fairies; in #2 (+2.5), I wanted to know if Ni0 PARTICLES, when not attached to other matter, and unaffected by “normal” gravity, and even able to phase through other solid & liquid matter unless in a solid group, according to lore, are always “falling” toward fairies & Fairy Island even when inert, and if they “fall” toward magic as well as HPE. What stops a giant pile of “ghost” particles from piling up in/on/around the island and Fairy bodies/brains? (I guess tha’ts question #2.75. 🤓)
Next, can you explain how, for me, simple questions always somehow turn into a 56 page dissertation?!? 😆 –JR
You are correct about the particles being unaffected by gravity, but nihillium is not especially attracted to fairies themselves, but to HPE itself, as demonstrated when the dark forest monster went for zak rather the other fairies, because he was the biggest source of HPE in the vincinity. With that in mind, the reason nihillium from all over the planet isn’t coagulating around the fairy island directly is the same reason the star fairies have to go on expeditions to destroy giant monsters…there are other sources of HPE on the planet that allow nihillium to activate and eventually create monsters. That’s all I’m gonna say on the matter, otherwise it will be spoilers.
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Hmm, now that I think about it, that make’s sense.
What makes the cave work exactly? And if you could replicate it, what would stop anyone from just making one? (I’m assuming this answer is in a lore page posted year’s ago)
The answer is in Bonus Art section. https://eldrikdgt.com/fvt/wp-content/gallery/design-sketches-and-notes/magic-cave-document.jpg
In short, what you think of as magic cave is just one part of it, the assembly chamber. The “magic” cave is actually complicated piece of technology (or magitech) with programmable computer system and quite complicated software. However, regarding copying it, the actual problem are two other components, the Nihillium Cathode aka the place Nihillium waste is sent to, also known as (center of) dark forest (Monolith is merge of Nihillium Cathode and F-jiby) … and the Matter Anode, aka the thing which is absorbing and translocating raw materials from north of island and turned it into wasteland.
In even more short version, you can’t fit second cave on the island without turning it uninhabitable. Of course, there is plenty of space on continents …
Oh wow. So literally the process of making fairies is causing the dark forest to be… well… the dark forest.
It’s not entirely clear (not even to Stars) how much of the effects of Nihillium Catode is inevitable and how much is caused by Monolith, and it’s not clear (THIS however Stars likely know) how much of the waste Nihillium is generated by creating fairies itself and how much is filtered out from what Matter Anode absorbs.
However, considering the island is among the LEAST nihillium-polluted parts of planet, yes, we can be sure that any “magic” cave creating fairies is going to create monsters as sideefect.
Can I be informed (or refreshed) on how Nihillium can even be “waste”? I thought it was the “perfect” artificial particle, and even though there is some difference between Fairy nihillium and “wild” nihillium, and possibly Nihalak nihillium as well, it’s not clear[*STOPS here, reads lore, distracted for days*]
Okay, I’m back…with KNOWLEDGE! 🤓
Alright, so it’s the nihillium (“Ni0”)* PROGRAMMING that is the biggest difference. That’s why nihallak Ni0 is weak to light and dark (“entropic”) magic, yet not the differently programmed fairy Ni0, nor programming-wiped (and therefore inert) Ni0, which has no programming to affect (unless there is some as yet undiscovered way to destroy/convert that Ni0 with magic). The energy-drained (and therefore also inert) Ni0 not only re-activates it’s programming with High-Plane energy (“HPE”) (and also magic?), but if it has Nihallak programming, it also CAN still be affected by entropic magic — correct, Author dearest? Other bothersome questions I must pester you with:
2) Does either of those inert-types of Ni0 still “gravitate” toward HPE? 2.5) Does any kind of free Ni0 gravitate toward magic?
3) If monster Ni0 is just old Nihallak Ni0 without any new programming, why aren’t monsters affected by entropic magic? (according to lore .pdf, I was reading one from years ago… [Last updated: July of 2019!!! 😅])
I hope you’ll forgive me for all the questions I’ve been asking *just these past 2 weeks* all over the site. 😁
*I figured I’d try to write Nihillium as if it were an atomic element, “Ni-0” but not only can I not use sub/super script easily – if at all – on this device, I also thought “0” works better than “1” since nihillium operates a little differently from the physics that we all know and love. 😉 Perhaps my idea isn’t that great, please let me know of a better suggestion if anyone thinks 1up. 🙂 –JR
Looking up my old notes/discusssions) – the monster nihillium no longer has the entropic weakness. I don’t have in my notes why but guessing the programing changed/broken so much it works differnetly than nihallak nihillium. And at same time the monsters are mostly made up of non nihillium
I don’t know about the fairy nihillium but every other kind is attrackted to HP energy. That why monsters so mindlessly want attack fairies – the programable mater in the orders them to gather more (should be noted that most nihillium out there is from nihallaks)
No problem with question asking. I do read it all – just at times I don’t have much to add 😀
Thanks, Sokaras! You’re an okay kind of person, regardless of what your little sister Katararas says.
You definitely answered #3. If you could stretch out a little more info like I stretched that Last Airbender reference, let me clarify the others for you:
The unnumbered #1 was just a desire for confirmation that the Nihallak/Kulthma Ni0 “programming” (and possibly resulting physical properties BECAUSE of programming) was the main reason for the entropic weakness, as opposed to something more inherent in the different Ni0 tyoes (fairy, nihallak, monster). All Ni0 in them is the same Ni0 OTHER than programming.
In other words, it’s not like fairies’ Ni0 is like iPhones and Nihallaks’ is Surface tablets, they’re all the exact same device, with different apps… possibly different operating systems, but still same devices. Just like a computer virus might hurt one OS but not another even on the same devices, entropic magic harms Nihallak Ni0 yet not fairy/monster Ni0 (even if it harms the fairy or monster’s body!). Is that accurate? If so, you can totally use that analogy.
Next, I know that creatures with Ni0 are ATTRACTED to fairies; in #2 (+2.5), I wanted to know if Ni0 PARTICLES, when not attached to other matter, and unaffected by “normal” gravity, and even able to phase through other solid & liquid matter unless in a solid group, according to lore, are always “falling” toward fairies & Fairy Island even when inert, and if they “fall” toward magic as well as HPE. What stops a giant pile of “ghost” particles from piling up in/on/around the island and Fairy bodies/brains? (I guess tha’ts question #2.75. 🤓)
Next, can you explain how, for me, simple questions always somehow turn into a 56 page dissertation?!? 😆 –JR
You are correct about the particles being unaffected by gravity, but nihillium is not especially attracted to fairies themselves, but to HPE itself, as demonstrated when the dark forest monster went for zak rather the other fairies, because he was the biggest source of HPE in the vincinity. With that in mind, the reason nihillium from all over the planet isn’t coagulating around the fairy island directly is the same reason the star fairies have to go on expeditions to destroy giant monsters…there are other sources of HPE on the planet that allow nihillium to activate and eventually create monsters. That’s all I’m gonna say on the matter, otherwise it will be spoilers.